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mg73

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Motionworker etc
« on: March 28, 2018, 06:42:16 AM »
My console 4056G+ came with a motionworker system
I have a Microlynx which controls my MM1200 and PT now.

Is there a way to get the Motionworker to control the Microlynx
or should I ditch it and get a LYNX II for the MM1200 instead?
The Motionworker can control the AVID sync I/O direct with the  RS232 protocol , right?




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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2018, 04:08:32 PM »
There must be a manual on the web.

Some info on motionworker setup at end of pdf attached.


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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2018, 06:15:33 PM »
If you are happy with the operation of your Microlynx control of the 1200 and PT, why change anything?

Just feed the LTC to the desk and be done with it.

Or are their other interfaces implemented in the Motionworker that you would like to keep?

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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2018, 01:59:07 PM »
I want the SSL to be the remote,that seems like a better workflow and cleaner work area.

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Adam Smith/ Motionworks clarification
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2018, 12:40:44 AM »
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For the record, the people behind Motionworker were UK based SSL design engineers and not Adam Smith techs. The Adam Smith equipment was bought in by SSL from the USA and SSL used it to control more than one tape machine.

None of those Motionworker people are involved within the Pro-Audio industry any more, as far as I can tell but, I wish you good luck with sourcing any info you may require.

I worked on the Adam Smith lead requirements at SSL and afterwards for Motionworks but do not have any technical knowledge of how they worked.

Hope this clarifies things a bit.
PS: Must post some more wiring info on the wiring menu. Any wiring issues anyone?

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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2018, 03:34:52 AM »
Thanks Jim.

I sent email about George's contact info.

Thanks

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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2018, 02:18:33 AM »
I found my old Motionworker manual in an old paper folder.....ha no pdf's back in 1992.

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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2018, 09:09:14 PM »
I got the manuals, both Tech and operation manuals.

But would love a quick dummy guide
to point my quick in the right way.

Bought a couple of LYNX II to replace the Microlynx seems to be more suitable for the Motionworker.


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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2018, 08:59:47 PM »
Great. You'll get it. Maybe someone else will chime in.

So you have the section 5 in ops manual that says how to setup with ssl?


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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2018, 08:16:48 PM »
Thanks for getting back!

Section 5 in my Op manual are the Panel system
Section 21 are SSL program setup if that is what you mean,
and I have setup up the SSL computer as it says in the manual.
And I can see the SSL's computer getting EBU/smpte when playing the MotionWorker

I've gotten the  motionworker to read and generate smpte
but still not able to get it to talk to my Lynx (Ampex MM1200)
I connected the DB9 cable between Lynx and MW's JR3 port
The MW manual is not super clear how to set it up
for Lynx synchroniser.

Also could the MW talk directly to my DAW?
It's protools running Sync I/O for smpte and USA-28X serial to usb
or do I need to a Lynx for that to?




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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2018, 03:14:05 PM »
So back in the day before PT, we only used the Motionworker when we had two multitracks. You could offset one machine against the other and fly parts from one machine to the other.

If you just have one machine you might just use Lynx. More people can help with that setup.

I use 2tools to control PT.

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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2018, 06:25:37 PM »
First, get the lynx II to control the MM1200
if you can use the lynx front panel ply, ffwd, rew buttons, you have control

then you know that is working correctly,

then get the MM1200 to chase LTC with just its Lynx, LTC from any source

in other words, chew it up bite at a time.

do you have a video reference (house sync)?
needed to have real lock (there are other ways)
I don't know MW, is it in there?

where did the db9 cable come from? Make sure it is configured correctly, I forget, but I think it needs to cross over T & R, check that.

you have the url to get all the Lynx documents? John Klett has the documents online at http://www.technicalaudio.com/pdf/TimeLine/

Cheers
Alan


ps
note in the pdf on the previous message, the WC is derived from Video Black. The video and the WC need to be derived from a common source, or you drift. (synchronous) This can be done better than in that document by using a clock generator that generate both video black and WC from a master oscillator. Brainstorm and Rosendahl make them as well as some others.  Generating WC from video is prone to jitter.

or you turn it around and use your PT to generate WC and control things from the computer, which is not what you are looking for as I understand it. Does anyone know of a unit that goes WC to video? that would allow the digital rig to have control of WC.






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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2018, 10:21:34 PM »
Everything is solid and working between MM1200 and LYNX II.
I have a rosendahl Nanosync  both providing WC(AD/DA, SYNC I/O etc) and House clock(to MW, LYNX II, SYNC I/O)

I'm pretty sure everything is setup right,
I can control the MW from the  transport buttons on the SSL centre section
and see timecode in the SSL computer

But the problem is to get communication working between the LYNX  and MW
I'm starting to think that something is wrong with the MW perhaps the PAL ID rom or something else
I been over the MW manuals for setting up Timeline LYNX several times without making the MW seeing it...





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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2018, 08:41:17 PM »
sorry, can't help, I have no experience with MW

sounds like you are on the right track.

Cheers
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Re: Motionworker etc
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2018, 08:18:55 PM »
Solved,
The Motionworker didn't have the the two IC's needed for Lynx  operationen,
which I was told it have...
Instead it had the two "Perfect machine" IC's

Anyone wanna trade or have a pair for sale?