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Tech discussion => 4K,6K,8K Series => Topic started by: sintech on July 11, 2012, 11:33:45 AM

Title: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on July 11, 2012, 11:33:45 AM: Having owned two full sized SSL 4k's in the past, this time the aim is to have a small modular console for my project room, but with the sonic of the full beast. A lot of this I've pulled off Ebay and the like.

651 elements are all rack mounted, 026+027 cards: 2 buss summing/compressor: 032 cue mix amps

Currently I'm working on the G series bucket, that will add to the current action giving me 18 channels in total.. but it's on going project. ;)

(9x 1989 E channels, 9x late 90's G series)

E series Bucket and Mini 651:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_1637.jpg)

G series Bucket

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_2263.jpg)

Cue Mix amps done

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_2118.jpg)

cue mix amps

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/18cue.jpg)

Etching 032 cards

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/16etch.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/13assemble.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/12collectedjunk.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/11profiles.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/5hook.jpg)

26 and 27 cards

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/5hook.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/6working.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/4hook.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/2back.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/1Edgecons.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/3.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_1275.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_0853.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_1249.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Matt Sartori on July 11, 2012, 04:48:05 PM: Sintech,
Every time I go through this Thread I have to stop and scratch my eyes at least a couple of times....
:) this is a BRILLIANT way of putting together your DIY SSL ... I absolutely LOVE IT!

especially if I look at the way you customized it!
Are the mix amps the same as the originals? are they working well?

Mattia.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on July 11, 2012, 05:09:01 PM: Thanks Mattia, a lot of passion has gone into the project in the 10 months since it's incarnation.

The Cue mix amps are 100% identical, apart from missing the one IC that does the EQ.
As the phase flips through the circuit, you have to reverse the phase of the cross-coupled balanced output (Due to lack of EQ), at the output XLR.

I couldn't get 032 cards at the right price, this was my only reason to DIY this

All other cards are original, apart from using Keith's SSL 9000 output board to balance the LF RF Master bus outputs.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: darynbarry on July 14, 2012, 07:20:30 PM: What a cool idea! I'll bet there will be many who want similar small footprint similar desks for there summing / mixing pleasure.

Daryn Barry
The Orange Lounge
567 Queen St. West, Suite 300
Toronto, ON, Canada
M5V 2B6
Tel: 416.504.8084 ext 225
Fax: 416.504.8972
email: daryn@theorangelounge.com
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Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: xmax on July 14, 2012, 11:01:28 PM: Very cool!!!! where does the summing take place? Nice work. N
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on July 15, 2012, 12:30:36 AM: Hi, the summing happens in the shown 027 cards, the Left and Right front busses sum to transistor pairs, just like the real console, wire for wire.

For me this is the total magic of the 4K 2Bus, and why an 80 channel mix sounds great! with minimal smear.

This summing bus output then is balanced and appears as normal on the patchbay as the 'Pre VCA send'

The 'Pre VCA return' is really the balanced input to the compressor section and master fader.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Doctor Ferg on July 18, 2012, 06:41:02 PM: Looking great Sintech! We are about to recap our 82e27 cards and spotted a post by Nielsk suggesting there is an improvement to be had by replacing the back to back electrolytics with non-polarised caps. Tempting but I am torn between authenticity and the quest for perfection...
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on July 18, 2012, 07:00:58 PM: Yes, and he also suggested 2200uF for C1 and C2, now it's 220uF on the E cards, but quickly checking G schematics, the larger cap is in place.

I think it gives a tighter bottom end.

Personally, it's all recapped with the stock E values, but would be interested if you went for the larger C1,2 option.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on July 18, 2012, 07:58:04 PM: In fact it's 470uF on the E series inputs, compared to the G series on the right:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/027cardinputCaps.jpg)

Same thing with the Back to backs, on the right they've been replaced after point 12 & 13, with single non polarised 100uF,

5K enlarged to 15k

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/027Back2BackCaps.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Matt Sartori on July 18, 2012, 08:09:59 PM: VERY INTERESTING sintech, I think I am gonna do the mod, unless the G upgrade that was done to the console few years ago already includes this!

Mattia.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on August 08, 2012, 06:03:32 PM: Worked on the 33 card (Listen Mic/Talkback & compressor) today, I hooked off Jim on my visit last week.

For use purely as mic pre's and limiter, for recording room mics,.. and as a naughty mixing parallel. (Ridge Farm Boiler style)

Decided it would be better to have a stereo limiter, rather than two preamps summing to mono. :-) building the second limiter/output stage on matrix board point to point:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Talk1.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Talk2.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Doctor Ferg on August 08, 2012, 08:33:18 PM: Very nice idea turning this into stereo Andy, I was thinking of racking an 82e33 for our ICON room... The D-Control has a listen mic input but no limiter which is going to end in tears one day... The input capacitor choice gives a severe bass roll off if i'm not mistaken so I was thinking of a switched bigger one in parallel to give a more normal bass response when using it as a mic amp
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on August 09, 2012, 12:22:03 AM: Hi Paul,

thanks for the tip regarding the input cap, I think it's defo worth having two settings as your suggesting... cheers Doc :-)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on August 19, 2012, 07:32:46 PM: This weekend has been metalwork for bucket number three, and the patchbay.

All Isep rails cut to size, with a hacksaw :-) Very happy with progress so far.

Thanks also to Jim, for a few helpful pointers

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_2514.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_2518.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_2531.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_2525.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_2561.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on September 04, 2012, 07:41:06 PM: Belly panel to Knee panel conversion,
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/bend2.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/bend1.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/benddone.jpg)

Constructed a four space Centre Section, from the bits left over.. starting to look like a console ;-)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/4spacecentre.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Matt Sartori on September 04, 2012, 10:16:24 PM: AWESOME...what are you going to use for the meters (if any).
also I am really curious to see what is going to be in the centre section....

Mattia.

BTW...is that a GEARSLUTZ cup I see on the table (in the pic with the washing machine)?

:-\
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on September 05, 2012, 12:39:59 AM: Hey Mattia, no standard metering, it's either too problematic, or too expensive.

Do have a nice master plasma (German) with inbuilt phase meter...but, it's too small to fit in the 4 space centre. So will probably sit in-between the monitors.

The top panel is just to sit the LARC on!!! :-)

Going to get Pete (sinestar) to CNC the final centre panel, it's really just VCA cuts and solos, Master status, and pretty much what's on my current temp panel:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/6working.jpg)

hehehe, you know it's GS mug :--))
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Dan Korneff on September 05, 2012, 01:43:17 AM: Quote from: sintech on August 08, 2012, 06:03:32 PM

Decided it would be better to have a stereo limiter, rather than two preamps summing to mono. :-) building the second limiter/output stage on matrix board point to point:

Damn.. wish I saw this earlier. I designed a self etch layout of this circuit a couple years ago. Could have saved you some time.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on September 08, 2012, 04:04:27 PM: Friggin" unreal Andy !!! Congrats my friend. Looks like I'm going to have to go the 4K route instead of the 9J's i have..
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on October 14, 2012, 11:21:34 AM: Frame Complete 4024 with Right Hand Patch., it's still very modular and every bucket terminates locally to Dsubs. Took about an hour to bolt it up.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/sintech.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/24channels.jpg)

Power: Big shout to Jim, for giving me some power wiring demonstration/advice and lending me the BICC tooling. :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/PowerBICC.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/PowerPanel1.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Power2.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Power3.jpg)

Patches: The next task is to begin the bay wiring, 4x 80 way supplied by Jim, and my two existing outboard bays.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Bays.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: StefanNowak on October 15, 2012, 12:05:33 AM: Looking great Andy!
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on October 15, 2012, 12:40:15 AM: Killing me Andy:) Finally going to have enough cash this week to payoff my buss cards for the bucket. I'll take the psu u have,at least I'll be able to use what channels I will have as I keep buying them...Damn my wife is literally going to kill me in my sleep and say I must had been electricuted building all this...LOL..
Let me no about psu my friend,and great friggin' work as always..

Myke
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on October 24, 2012, 05:34:35 PM: (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/4024.jpg)

As of today, it's sounding great, super low noise floor, on the LF, RF buses, and all 6 cue/aux mix amps are working perfectly. Looking forward to installing it in my studio in the weeks to come. :--)))))

If anyone has a 82e20 card (VCA Groupers and Cuts) for sale, let me know :-)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Audioplatinum Service on October 25, 2012, 09:42:56 PM: sintech,

this is awesome work...looking great!

Raf
http://embrioproduction.com
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: StefanNowak on October 27, 2012, 12:10:40 PM: Awesome work indeed Andy, geez ya clever!

S
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 01, 2012, 12:58:33 PM: Big Shout to member Drago, for gifting me a VCA bus card, thanks man, this is so helpful!! :-))))))

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/FaderBus.jpg)

I'm pretty certain this originally came from Jim's 6K :-)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 30, 2012, 01:50:47 AM: The last few weeks progress:

Going through new channels from Jim, via the SSL 4002 Demo Console, and standard 611 extender

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/TestJig.jpg)

Working on the VCA group matrix board

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/basic20.jpg)

82E20 VCA Group card, bought from the fantastic people at Recycled Audio

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/20card.jpg)

Following the SSL service manual 'Point to Point' wiring
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/sc.jpg)

Recapping the power caps on the 82E20 card

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/20carrecap.jpg)

Competed back plane wiring, just VCA Trim pot and switch connections to go

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/BPand20.jpg)

661J (Japan) The Jap's weren't happy with the original 661, and came up with this beast. It has 2x 19 way BICC outlets, so pushed the boundary to 56 channels on a single supply.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/661Jfront.jpg)

tower

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Tower.jpg)

All channels powered:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/24powered.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on November 30, 2012, 01:55:22 AM: Looks fantastic my friend..

...M...
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on December 04, 2012, 02:05:19 PM: Fitting the End Castings

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/EndCasting.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/side.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/LeftEndCasting.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/RightEndCasting.jpg)

New eBay Toy: Soldermaster MK 8 Desoldering station :-)

Featuring a Weller W100D 100w soldering iron and foot switch controlled vacuum. Very clean results so far :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/DESOLDER.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Matt Sartori on December 06, 2012, 10:46:46 PM: Andy...this is brilliant!
I wonder, do you think there is a way to make the E series trim look like the G series? I'd love to make my 4064E sides a bit more aggressive like the G series.

Mattia.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on December 07, 2012, 12:29:24 AM: Hey Mattia, the metalwork is identical, so you could fit G trims on, it's just getting hold of them in the first place. I seem to remember G side trims being really lightweight, almost Styrofoam like?? The arm rest is sleeker, and top of the penthouse goes a little higher.

Personally, the E series Trim is iconic :-) heheheh, but that's my view :-)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on December 09, 2012, 12:35:27 PM: Very thin sounding large fader path, having changed IC's apart from the Overload circuit, this 013 cards caps are question!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/RC1.jpg)

Desolder station makes this just a 5 min job!! heheheheh Wow!!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/RC2.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/RC3.jpg)

Perfect!
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/RC4.jpg)

Sounds Great, fat and full range :-)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/RC5.jpg)

I did actually have the 1.5uF in stock for the power rails, could I use 2.2uF??
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on January 29, 2013, 07:57:40 AM: I set out to make a modular 16 channel, very portable 4K, but.. looks like it just ended up being a boring custom 24 :-)

Ebay Junk: cheap 9000J VU meters have arrived! (Thanks Myke)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/1_9kmeters_zps24307ba6.jpg)

Setting the speakers up in advance, things are going to get tight!!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/2_Speakersinplace_zpsb3f4441c.jpg)

Breaking down, and pleased to get my lounge back :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/3_breakdown_zpsb6a83c93.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/35_breakdown_zpsab9064c2.jpg)

Rebuild

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/4_rebuild_zpse1af6aac.jpg)

Planning the best way to make these VU's work with a 4000

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/5_Planning_zpsf5815229.jpg)

82E06 VU circuit on top of the 9K card!!!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/55_9Kto4K_zpsd190b55d.jpg)

Works perfectly!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/6_works_zps15372a41.jpg)

More building as the snow falls

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/7_morebuilding_zps60bf02b3.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/75_morebuilding_zps8d4e1ec3.jpg)

Toy racks and SSL X-Desk sidecar for FX returns
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/8_toys_zps51a5b42d.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/9_zps23bfb8a5.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/10_VU_zpsad7eea81.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: StefanNowak on January 29, 2013, 09:10:20 AM: Looking hot Andy!!!

Stef.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on January 30, 2013, 01:15:23 AM: Quote from: sintech on January 29, 2013, 07:57:40 AM
I set out to make a modular 16 channel, very portable 4K, but.. looks like it just ended up being a boring custom 24 :-)

Ebay Junk: cheap 9000J VU meters have arrived! (Thanks Myke)
Your always welcome my friend,anytime,any place , i gotcha bro...
Myke

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/1_9kmeters_zps24307ba6.jpg)

Setting the speakers up in advance, things are going to get tight!!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/2_Speakersinplace_zpsb3f4441c.jpg)

Breaking down, and pleased to get my lounge back :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/3_breakdown_zpsb6a83c93.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/35_breakdown_zpsab9064c2.jpg)

Rebuild

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/4_rebuild_zpse1af6aac.jpg)

Planning the best way to make these VU's work with a 4000

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/5_Planning_zpsf5815229.jpg)

82E06 VU circuit on top of the 9K card!!!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/55_9Kto4K_zpsd190b55d.jpg)

Works perfectly!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/6_works_zps15372a41.jpg)

More building as the snow falls

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/7_morebuilding_zps60bf02b3.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/75_morebuilding_zps8d4e1ec3.jpg)

Toy racks and SSL X-Desk sidecar for FX returns
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/8_toys_zps51a5b42d.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/9_zps23bfb8a5.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/10_VU_zpsad7eea81.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on February 17, 2013, 03:07:24 PM: Time to address the VCA groups for the console:

I scored an old E series 82e20 card from the wonderful people at Recycled Audio, Re-capped and re-chipped for good measure.

Quick backplane, adding an extra S17E connector, and a random eBay 6K panel with Solo Cuts.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3500_zps7aea296f.jpg)

I still need 4 more Solo/Cuts.. so it's DIY time once again:

Collected Junk (mainly from Jim's containers)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3507_zps275e52b5.jpg)

Sunday Morning Point to Point:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3510_zps00117700.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3512_zpsd0eff175.jpg)

Finished Point to Point:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3518_zps8ecd9cc6.jpg)

Testing, all working as you'd expect, if a little ghetto :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3516_zpsc748d92f.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on February 25, 2013, 11:29:52 AM: Weekend of testing Modules in place, console is sounding great! Think it's kinda finished :)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3571_zpsc5787e63.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3583_zpsc58fb3d5.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3587_zps94bdac85.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_3591_zpsc78d0ba5.jpg)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on February 25, 2013, 02:35:29 PM: Awesome Andy, you are the man..
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: df on February 25, 2013, 06:09:37 PM: Now take it all apart and put it back together again blindfolded...

You can do it baby!
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: kilmister on February 25, 2013, 06:34:00 PM: ...in 45 secs! ::)

Great work mate, congrats!

-Paavo
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Matt Sartori on February 27, 2013, 09:45:10 PM: Well done, really GREAT job!

Mattia
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: StefanNowak on February 28, 2013, 06:45:07 AM: Looks so good!!

Stef
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: marcmozart on March 10, 2013, 08:55:17 PM: What caps did you use and where to order? Do you have a link? What kind of values do I need to recap a full channel strip?
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: kilmister on March 10, 2013, 09:37:16 PM: Guys, please do not quote pictures, it makes thread very annoying to read... (silent wish you'll edit your posts, thx)

For me those caps Sintech has used look like Dubilier, I went with Panasonic FC series for audio and FM series for power. Mouser is good place to order them.

-Paavo
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on March 11, 2013, 01:01:18 AM: Yes, Dubilier, from Audio Maintenance, perfect values and sizes.

http://www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/radial_capacitors.html
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on July 11, 2013, 05:19:16 PM: Time to start to look at the 2 bus metering, My Plasma PPM is great, but need the calming effect of Vu meters! and the sweet spot is in the VU area.

Half-Bucket meter panel, bought from Rob (Regalhousestudio)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/Testing_zpse2a54bf4.jpeg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/Testing_zpse2a54bf4.jpeg.html)

PPM card 1980's caps looking puffy

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/swollencaps_zps8ebdaf1f.jpeg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/swollencaps_zps8ebdaf1f.jpeg.html)

High Temperature replacements.. yeah!!!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/HiTempreplacements_zps41d04fcc.jpeg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/HiTempreplacements_zps41d04fcc.jpeg.html)

sorted

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/Freshcaps_zps18f08665.jpeg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/Freshcaps_zps18f08665.jpeg.html)

DIY Vu buffer circuit, on it's way :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/DIYmeterbuffer_zps49f406d3.jpeg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/DIYmeterbuffer_zps49f406d3.jpeg.html)

Any one have a PPM calibration guide, or know the purpose of the 3 trimmers?
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on July 13, 2013, 06:17:09 PM: Today is my first attempt to make blanking panels!

Paint experiments, pretty close in tone to Raven Splatter, but has the metallic look.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/Painttest_zps26ae7c8b.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/Painttest_zps26ae7c8b.jpg.html)

Cutting a panel from raw Aluminium with a hacksaw :(

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/chop_zpsd9971f0f.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/chop_zpsd9971f0f.jpg.html)

finished raw panel

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/prepaint_zps50c612ac.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/prepaint_zps50c612ac.jpg.html)

Third coat, the paint dries in seconds in the summer heat!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/woohoo_zps3a7418f4.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/woohoo_zps3a7418f4.jpg.html)

Finish is a shade darker than ideal, but pleased for a first attempt :---))))

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/fin_zps5f7ad8e0.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/fin_zps5f7ad8e0.jpg.html)

Against the Raven Sparkle Meter

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/ssl%20project/notperfect_zps6180e1a4.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/ssl%20project/notperfect_zps6180e1a4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: marcmozart on July 13, 2013, 10:16:00 PM: Any way to give sintech "legend"-status in this forum? Unbelieveable work!

Reminds me of the metal panel for my E-Series Computer Keyboard in G-Series grey. Needs a serious repaint.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: marcmozart on October 15, 2013, 08:02:07 PM: Andy, this needs a follow up! Didn't you do a lot more to your console since the last post here?
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on October 15, 2013, 08:36:47 PM: Hey Marc, the console is in use everyday, and really happy with how it sounds.

Currently, building the MK2 Centre Section using all the usual cards from the 651, but leaving out. the monitor section, talkback and maybe the oscillator. The backplane is all point to point.

It's quite compact, and has dual concentric pots in places.

When it's complete, it'll get fitted it over a few days, and change a few other aspects. 8)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 12, 2013, 09:22:36 AM: Started working on the MK2 centre section this week, it's just nine essential cards:

32 x 2 (cue mix amps)

30 (2 Stereo echo return)

27 (Compressor Time Constants)

26 x2 ( Mix amps + VCA)

25 (Quad Bus Outputs)

21 (Status)

20 (VCA Groups)

Recapping on all the cards begins:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Centre/Recapping_zps75435238.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Centre/Recapping_zps75435238.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Centre/IMG_4714_zps8b245cd6.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Centre/IMG_4714_zps8b245cd6.jpg.html)

Impossible to get the right size connectors, discontinued at most suppliers.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Centre/De-pin_zps4f8092bb.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Centre/De-pin_zps4f8092bb.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Centre/2_zpsb1d3c5c7.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Centre/2_zpsb1d3c5c7.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Centre/compact_zpsa1747881.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Centre/compact_zpsa1747881.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Centre/1_zpsdec76103.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Centre/1_zpsdec76103.jpg.html)

D-sub I/O for all audio connections

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Centre/7_zps18fa5345.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Centre/7_zps18fa5345.jpg.html)

Point to Point on the backplane begins :)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Centre/8_zpsb78eb1d7.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Centre/8_zpsb78eb1d7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Nick on November 12, 2013, 10:57:59 AM: :o
You are a monster !!! ;-)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on November 12, 2013, 12:17:21 PM: Know this is what I'm going to have to build for my centre section.
Do you have the dimensions on this beast?
Looking good Andy.
M
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 12, 2013, 01:27:02 PM: Myke, the original 651 is between 3 and 4U, I could make it exactly that size.. but would need better metalwork.

This is made (as usual) out of reclaimed ISEP rail based oddments and general rubbish. 4U is comfortable and easy to mount the backplane, and have a space for wiring, which can build up P2P.

I’ll reduce the hight once my front panel is planed and drilled. I got some large 4 deck dual concentric pots to accommodate for the cue send EQ’s.

Learnt a lot from my current Mk1 (which is fully working and sounds great) but you have to make it. ..to know how to make it better!
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Matt Sartori on November 12, 2013, 08:11:00 PM: Mind BLOWING!

Mattia.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 15, 2013, 08:26:49 PM: Few more hours on the backplane and S5 input:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_4767_zps6e6f7437.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_4767_zps6e6f7437.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_4764_zps46fbceec.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_4764_zps46fbceec.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_4762_zps54b520a0.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_4762_zps54b520a0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on November 18, 2013, 01:32:28 AM: Looks awesome Andy. I finally got all the cards that you have, except the 2X 032 cards and the 2 X 026 cards. Where did you get your edge connectors for the cards at? Plus the P2P backplan?
I'd like to start fitting these cards in. Thanks bro.

Myke
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 18, 2013, 11:15:21 AM: Hi Myke, the 345 series is discontinued by most suppliers, since last buying 110 pin versions 18 months ago.

This EDAC 120 pin (60 double sided) will work for all cards:

http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/EDAC/345-120-520-201/?qs=kP3P12TjBhsHitDyDZA79g==

It does appear they have just 2 remaining in stock, so it maybe worth giving them a call.

The 025 card has 5 pairs of unused pins, so I've hacksawed the very top of the edac to allow the card to fit through.

The rest of the cards, I've de-pinned them down to 110, and then keyed them so they fit correctly each time.

The backplane is three of these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171019531129&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:3160
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 18, 2013, 11:25:33 AM: Digikey have 51 in stock:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/345-120-520-201/EDC345202-ND/210806
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on November 18, 2013, 01:03:16 PM: Thanks Andy, just bought the matrixs boards. Edge connectors are next on my list. These things are expensive, lol.
Any other connectors you might think I'll need please let me no.
Was trying to look at your pics to see how far apart you were placing the connectors.

Myke
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 18, 2013, 02:32:11 PM: Myke, don't miss out on the Edge Conns, doubt they'll re-stock after the 51 are gone.

Other connectors:

Male Dsubs, I've talked to Jim, and he's going to look out his stock for Males with ribbon connector termination for S5, S3 and S4.

Female Dsubs, for audio connections.

20 way IDC headers PCB mount S5, S3 & S4 on the backplane and one extra S17 if you need the full 8 VCA groups: Got a big bag of these, will send you whats needed.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on November 18, 2013, 04:10:45 PM: Hey bro, I ordered 6, about all I could afford at the moment.
$16.88 US each. DAMN!!!! $112 total with shipping.
We need to find a cheaper place.lol...
Hopefully Jim will have the others, plus I need to see if he has any scribble channel scrips for the 1st bucket. It never stops once you start. This is worse than a crack addiction.
Hehe
Thanks dude.
Myke
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on November 30, 2013, 12:54:25 AM: Mixing mechanical VU and PPM meters with SSL LCD Bargraphs for my 2 bus/centre section:

Thanks to Helterbelter, for the schematics and helping me get my head around the 5k power rails.

Power arrangement on the bench:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Power_zps8c448e12.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Power_zps8c448e12.jpg.html)
PPM Mode:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/2busLEDMeters_zpsab4019c1.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/2busLEDMeters_zpsab4019c1.jpg.html)
VU mode:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/VUmode_zps270c7ebd.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/VUmode_zps270c7ebd.jpg.html)
Close up
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/close_zpsbe243652.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/close_zpsbe243652.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on November 30, 2013, 12:56:27 AM: Very nice....

Recording 2 inches @ a Time(plus PT)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: marcmozart on November 30, 2013, 09:17:43 AM: Extremly impressed, as always! I also thought about mixing meters, but I love the classic look of "VU only". 2-bus VUs of course always hammering the needle LoL so technically it does totally make sense to use a pair of these instead.

Got an idea for you below... 45 Euro 5" Display thats available on eBay. Connects as a second monitor to my Mac Pro. SSL-Logo is a Desktop Backround. Let's me switch off the DAW screen at times and open an the Arrangement or mixer window on the onboard display.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: pascal.verdet on November 30, 2013, 10:15:58 AM: Quote from: marcmozart on November 30, 2013, 09:17:43 AM

Got an idea for you below... 45 Euro 5" Display thats available on eBay. Connects as a second monitor to my Mac Pro. SSL-Logo is a Desktop Backround. Let's me switch off the DAW screen at times and open an the Arrangement or mixer window on the onboard display.

Hi Marc,
Can you give the link on Ebay ?
Thanks,
Cheers,
Pascal
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: marcmozart on November 30, 2013, 10:32:07 AM: This is it:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/5inch-800x480-LCD-Car-Reverse-Rearview-Video-AV-Monitor-Camera-LCD-Color-Screen-/190974108802?pt=US_Rear_View_Monitors_Cams_Kits&hash=item2c76f1a482

They are shipping directly from Singapore, takes a few weeks, but I'm very happy with the purchase. They have a number of small screens intended for cars and this one works great - runs on an original Apple DVI -> Video Adapter (Cinch Connection).

Quote from: plimousse on November 30, 2013, 10:15:58 AM
Quote from: marcmozart on November 30, 2013, 09:17:43 AM

Got an idea for you below... 45 Euro 5" Display thats available on eBay. Connects as a second monitor to my Mac Pro. SSL-Logo is a Desktop Backround. Let's me switch off the DAW screen at times and open an the Arrangement or mixer window on the onboard display.

Hi Marc,
Can you give the link on Ebay ?
Thanks,
Cheers,
Pascal
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on March 26, 2014, 02:14:31 PM: With none of the new solutions on the horizon, it’s time to get a computer again, this will be my third :-)

Computer is here!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/4compin_zps1e952cff.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/4compin_zps1e952cff.jpg.html)

The Pile of Multiplexers

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/1PlexPile_zpsda865b10.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/1PlexPile_zpsda865b10.jpg.html)

Recapping :)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/2Plexrecap_zps5d749203.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/2Plexrecap_zps5d749203.jpg.html)

Grading the Multiplexers in to A, B and C piles

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/3plexgrade_zps3d106daf.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/3plexgrade_zps3d106daf.jpg.html)

Fitting and Addressing each module:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/35plexfitting_zps37413218.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/35plexfitting_zps37413218.jpg.html)

Setting up the computer:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/5tweaking_zps2cdc725d.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/5tweaking_zps2cdc725d.jpg.html)

Boom!!! Begbroke! but.. were Black and White :(

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/6BandW_zps5ae27a2c.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/6BandW_zps5ae27a2c.jpg.html)

Konnektor Arrives from Werner :)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/7kon_zps226da505.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/7kon_zps226da505.jpg.html)

After much days fooling and buying one RGB to S-Video converter box.. got eBay shopping for a slightly older Sony 23" LCD TV, it works first time :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/8SonyTV_zpsd7ecf773.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/8SonyTV_zpsd7ecf773.jpg.html)

Colour minus the Red! Mmmm..

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/9NoRed_zps0fb7d5e5.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/9NoRed_zps0fb7d5e5.jpg.html)

Jumpered the Red output of the TR computer direct into the TV to prove it’s a faulty Video Distribution Card

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/10newVideoCard_zps5869fc40.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/10newVideoCard_zps5869fc40.jpg.html)

Cabling to the machine room
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/11machine_zps5e0c3a05.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/11machine_zps5e0c3a05.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/12ConsoleandPT_zps91970137.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/12ConsoleandPT_zps91970137.jpg.html)

Card sorted,,Red is back!!!!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/13Redworking_zps5366f284.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/13Redworking_zps5366f284.jpg.html)

Setting up Konnektor, quick and fast setup, brilliant bit of kit.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/125Konected_zps054070e0.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/125Konected_zps054070e0.jpg.html)

First Arrangement in.. and PT’s drives like a tape machine (my preferred way)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/126Arr_zps7c5bd6b6.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/126Arr_zps7c5bd6b6.jpg.html)

TR working all channels, first go:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/SSL%20computer/15TRcheck_zpscf2a6aec.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/SSL%20computer/15TRcheck_zpscf2a6aec.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: marcmozart on March 26, 2014, 02:22:55 PM: Jealous, for the first time 8)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Matt Sartori on March 26, 2014, 05:39:26 PM: I can see exactly the wrong mug on that table Andy... ;D ;D ;D
well done as usual!

Mattia.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on March 26, 2014, 06:01:34 PM: This is just making me sick Andy, Awesome F??KING job, I got dibs on your leftovers...lol

Recording 2 inches @ a Time(plus PT)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Artur D'Assumpção on March 26, 2014, 08:54:15 PM: Congratulations!

You always do such a wonderful work man! I'm proud of you! :)

Now that you have a computer that means that you'll be helping us with the new one?! :D

Cheers,

Artur
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on May 14, 2014, 06:18:26 AM: Finally tackling the Left/Right metering:

Four rail 5k style supply constructed for the LCD’s Bargraphs:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_5592_zps179f5eab.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_5592_zps179f5eab.jpg.html)

Meter distribution card, kindly donated by Marc, thank you so much :-)))
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_5597_zpscad60b6e.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_5597_zpscad60b6e.jpg.html)

VU and PPM’s

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_5596_zpsa44b0d12.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_5596_zpsa44b0d12.jpg.html)

Ready to fit, after this mix :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_5598_zpsabc4fa70.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_5598_zpsabc4fa70.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: marcmozart on May 14, 2014, 08:46:42 AM: Spectacular! Can't wait to see this mounted in the console.
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on May 14, 2014, 11:15:59 PM: Really pleased with the end result, three ways of looking at the same thing :-)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_5607_zps40b543cb.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_5607_zps40b543cb.jpg.html)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/IMG_5608_zps775d4fda.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/IMG_5608_zps775d4fda.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Artur D'Assumpção on May 15, 2014, 04:45:13 PM: wow that looks great!!

Did you make the PSU or you assembled from scattered parts!?

Cheers,

Artur
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on May 15, 2014, 05:00:18 PM: Just from scraps. from the Junk room!
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Artur D'Assumpção on May 15, 2014, 10:22:31 PM: perfect! ;) \o/\o/
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Subhumanrecords on May 16, 2014, 11:38:25 PM: Killing me Andy, seriously F /--king killing me. Looks awesome bro.

Recording 2 inches @ a Time(plus PT)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on December 12, 2014, 09:18:15 PM: I’m loving my console running the computer.. however the small keyboard is just too annoying! So scored a G series one, that’s been reduced to spares., and completely de-wired.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/1_zps9a3eeec0.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/1_zps9a3eeec0.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/2_zpse2ec2168.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/2_zpse2ec2168.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/3_zpsb3b5576d.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/3_zpsb3b5576d.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/4_zps0b070128.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/4_zps0b070128.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/5_zpsfcbc36f3.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/5_zpsfcbc36f3.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/6_zps7e51083e.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/6_zps7e51083e.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/10_zpsc530da82.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/10_zpsc530da82.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/7_zps4279af5a.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/7_zps4279af5a.jpg.html)

First run, checking all the functionality :-)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/8_zps205b32da.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/8_zps205b32da.jpg.html)

Pretty please how this turned out, having adapted the input to the VCA card to accept all eight groups over one cable (E series uses 2 with identical pinouts)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Keyboard/9_zps3ecfae8b.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Keyboard/9_zps3ecfae8b.jpg.html)

Many thanks to Backtrack, for mapping the connections from his :)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: sintech on December 12, 2014, 09:35:13 PM: Planning to rebuild the console larger, so new beams built this week from 80x40 box section I got from Jim (thanks dude)

Thing is with metalwork.. it’s always takes longer than you think :-)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/1_zpsa1be84b3.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/1_zpsa1be84b3.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/2_zpsf21c12da.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/2_zpsf21c12da.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/3_zpsb59ee418.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/3_zpsb59ee418.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/4_zps36f1d85d.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/4_zps36f1d85d.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/5_zps38d8e600.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/5_zps38d8e600.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/6_zps0d30cbbb.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/6_zps0d30cbbb.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/7_zpsb8fc235d.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/7_zpsb8fc235d.jpg.html)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/8_zps2c53de9c.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/8_zps2c53de9c.jpg.html)

Finished beams ready for bolt up :-)))

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/sin-tech/Beams/9_zpsbf85eae9.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/sin-tech/media/Beams/9_zpsbf85eae9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: marcmozart on December 17, 2014, 09:26:06 PM: √ my vote for best thread ever
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: waltzingbear on December 18, 2014, 07:25:12 AM: I don't know, using vise grips for a thread.......

Cheers
Alan
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Artur D'Assumpção on December 18, 2014, 10:36:02 AM: I am having SSL pr0n overdose.... o.O sdfsdfsdf.adfadsfja E POFEFJSDFAHSD FSDFNMDNVNdfddfg
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: xmax on January 11, 2015, 10:27:58 PM: Does anybody have a part number for the black audio biccs that connect to the bucket back plane or "mother board"?
Thanks! N
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Romaphonic on February 22, 2018, 07:12:06 PM: is there anyway we can have this topic with the images again? it was really helpful!
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: Chris Simon on February 23, 2018, 01:27:38 PM: Norman,

I believe you'll find the BICC's in the Souriau SMS Quick Mating range; a sample:

https://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Souriau/SMS6R1?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%252bGHln7q6pm%252b7BG22ialmxNHYY2YL2Srg%3d (https://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Souriau/SMS6R1?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%252bGHln7q6pm%252b7BG22ialmxNHYY2YL2Srg%3d)

Chris
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: SDVIG on March 02, 2018, 01:34:39 PM: Hello. Probably these connectors ?:
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/souriau/SMS6P1/SOU1223-ND/1243178
Title: 6 way Bicc motherboard connectors
Post by: jimlfixit on March 07, 2018, 01:15:47 AM: Hi there. Not sure where you live but these are ITT (Bicc) Trident connectors and I have just looked them up on Farnell (Newark? in the USA).

SSL used 6-24 way versions of these plus the round ones (4-36 way?) for the power leads.

Here are the details for the 6 way free socket Bicc connector as used on the upper busscard connections. The picture actually shows a 12 way version so don't be put off by that.
The prices shown are in GB£ by the way. 70p now when they cost about 16p in the late 1980's!
Title: Re: Modular SSL 4000 E/G build Project
Post by: SDVIG on February 22, 2020, 07:49:52 PM: Hello. I checked this:

Souriau SMS6P1 6P & SC20ML-1D70