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Re: SSL computer fan noise
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2014, 03:46:25 PM »
Hi Jim,
very inspiring and helpful - thank you! I know we've touched on this topic before. I always have a hard time when it comes to sourcing screws and the type of material you're mentioning that isolates the screws and the rack itself. I have of course experimented with some stuff like "hum-free" screws etc. but I would be thankful for weblinks to the items you are referring to!

I am still figuring things out at the moment, but I'm toying with the idea to replace the top of the computer completely, with a flyscreen (the type you would use for windows) and mount the (new replacement silent) fans on rubbers that are glued to the top ISEP rails that hold the various computer cards. The fans would be closer to where the heat originates.
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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2014, 09:35:37 PM »
There's a way to help reduce the noise...it's simply to cut the grills. :)

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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2014, 01:44:59 PM »
I like the PC fans I use them in a Neve Genesys that runs too hot.

A window screen will not allow the proper circulation if it is completely open.  Rather than suck air from the bottom of the rack the fans will also pull it from around their frames.
I always replaced like with like as best as possible looking for a high spec for hours of operation.  Pabst, ComairRotron and now NMB ball bearing style are working over 10 years constant use in a 68 degree machine room before going dry.
If I were to improve the SSL design I like the isolated original panel idea the best.  Perhaps weatherstripping around the top of the rack and just sit the panel on top of that.  I never measured the SPL of the panel freestanding vs mounted.  You have 8 or so other fans in a 4048 rack anyway.  It's supposed to make noise, thats how you know the power is on.

A word on contact cleaning- the cleaning is only half of the job.  The contacts on switches and connectors should be conditioned after that.  Especially switches.  They come from the factory with lube on the contacts and actuator.  Cleaning an old switch with whatever removes the lube with the crunchy sounds.  You want to replace that to keep the switch working smoothly.  Same with edge contacts.  I think of it in terms of chemistry.  If you leave contacts dry then the environment will determine what to put around the contact surfaces.  If you use a conditioner YOU control the connection.  ProGold, Electrolube, Renu, etc used miserly are good practice.
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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2014, 03:21:05 PM »
Marc, got a spare computer top panel, can send with the other stuff if you want it.

Something to experiment with, leaving your original intact.


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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2014, 08:20:39 PM »
Mike - as always - has killer advice. Awesome!! And yeah Andy, I'd love that spare fan panel. I can keep my original one intact and just A/B the hell out the old and new until we have the original design improved!

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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2014, 08:56:58 PM »
Marc, cool, will strip the old fans off to make it a bit lighter.

Just to throw it in the mix.. if you ultimately decide to Re-Fan your computer. Jim has some NOS 19" Ex-SSL panels with fans that are identical to the computer ones.

Also he probably doesn’t know he has them..


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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 11:19:51 PM »
Let's see how it goes. The old fans might be still decent, I've never ran this computer, ever...

Marc, cool, will strip the old fans off to make it a bit lighter.

Just to throw it in the mix.. if you ultimately decide to Re-Fan your computer. Jim has some NOS 19" Ex-SSL panels with fans that are identical to the computer ones.

Also he probably doesn’t know he has them..
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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2014, 10:10:29 PM »
Today, I decided to give my collected parts a test-run.

For as long as I'm testing the computer, I'm mounting it in this rollable rack for easy access:

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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2014, 10:14:00 PM »
Motherboard goes back in.



Filling with cards:



A look inside (here: motherboard connectors for power etc.)

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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2014, 10:15:55 PM »
My current experimental setup:



All the cards and connectors a very accessible. I'll keep it like that, until everything runs smoothly:

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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2014, 10:28:02 PM »
If you know a few things about the mix computer, please help me out in the troubleshooting thread of my mix computer:

http://forum.sslmixed.com/index.php?topic=514.0
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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2015, 12:05:19 PM »
Thanks to Andy "sintech" I now have a complete set of working computer cards that are tested.

If all goes well we'll celebrate the "rebirth" shortly - will keep you updated and post pictures!! :-)
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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2015, 07:17:22 PM »
go go Andy!! ;) \o/\o/\o/

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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2015, 07:44:08 PM »
Yeah, this is what we're hoping for at Marc's end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQgZXemAKBU&list=UU4h-bJXCVct3T-WrPx4NwXw

The system disc is set up for an events controller, hence why it pauses through boot up.

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Re: Rebirth of the Mix Computer
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2015, 12:53:39 PM »
I'm actually in the middle of trying to bring our 4000 G Mix Computer online right now at Sonic Ranch. We just purchased a second computer, which was supposedly working, but does not appear to be.

Anyone have any leads on card extenders for the computer? I may have to manufacture my own in order to get this thing online.