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MarconeMusic

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A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« on: December 30, 2021, 02:20:45 AM »
Hi!

So it’s been a while

I’ve been a busy guy playing around with gear and designing equipment with the help of some brilliant people and friends.
Long story short, I really like using my console as it is built, record through it when tracking and mix when mixing.
I found myself wanting flavour but had to reach for external preamps for that. This made me a bit miffed as I like the direct-ness of just using the board and not going out of the sweet spot for doing my work.etc.

What we’ve ended up doing to solve this is, we remade the 149 and 291 preamp / line cards.
Completely left in tact the whole line section as is, because let’s face it, this is where our consoles excel, but the preamp, its  a bit … meh….  Good but not wicked.
…well it now rocks!

A completely new drop in card which functions in the channel strip as expected, the line-in is as the day the console shipped, but has a newly designed class A Preamp with a transformer input. Nothing like those first pres, this is a total new beast!  Essentially a new flavour for the ssl which will stand up all day long to an API or NEVE in character, but makes the ssl functional for the outboard preamps duties!

I don’t have a ton of details about pricing and availability but, it is aimed at 1st quarter of 2022 for production as prototypes are completed and vetted!

I’m way too stoked to make my console and maybe yours, a beast in the tracking world too!

:) have a great new year y’all!

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2022, 02:11:00 AM »
cant wait to see/hear it!!!

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2022, 05:10:30 PM »
Please, please keep us posted.  This is very exciting.

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2022, 05:30:06 PM »
I will! As soon as some minor testing is finished.
Waiting on a different transformer at the moment.
Just to figure out if it will make a significant difference to the one we have currently. 

Just weeks away :)

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2022, 03:46:55 AM »
I'm keen, it would be nice to upgrade a bucket or two.

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2022, 02:34:00 PM »
Small update

The card has been working and happy for weeks in our console.
Waiting on a new transformer to test with it. (Wait times are mental)

Happy with the current results tho!   Very!!!

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2022, 03:03:10 AM »
Update.

Testing and all is complete.
The preamp / line replacement for the 291 is ready!

Just a recap, this is a pure Class A preamp with transformer input and a part for part replacement line section.
So the mixing portion of the console is unchanged, just new parts. Yet the preamp portion of the card is now a top rate preamp that will stand up to the same duties as a neve or api preamp!

The newly designed pre makes the console fully useable from tracking to mixing!! So excited.
Gone are the days of reaching behind you for a preamp to get that tone!
The best spot to dial in tone is right at the top of the Channel strip. Now it’s sorted!

I have a blind test I’d love to put up. Just a guitar amp > preamp > pro tools.
Used 2 identical mics, positioned in the same spot, split each to two preamps.
1 path was split to a 1073 and to my custom pre.
1 path was split to another 1073 and an original ssl G 291 preamp. .
For continuity and comparison.

What’s the best method for 4 audio samples to be shared?
Link to Google drive folder? Direct links? SoundCloud?

Chat soon!

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2022, 12:57:46 AM »
Hi,

Google drive folder link would be fine for downloading the files and listen to them.

Than you so much in advance.

Oihan

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2022, 02:25:53 AM »
Cheers! Here are the samples.
These were made for myself. With no thought in to tone or micing etc.
just had my engineer play some random guitar.  For us to test the preamps.
Zero post production. Just as described above in the previous post.

FYI.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IVGbK7Fa7KE995SwaArXLQU1BJ84eSJQ

Any questions or concerns. Feel free to ask!
« Last Edit: October 02, 2022, 02:34:27 AM by MarconeMusic »

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2022, 03:09:01 PM »
Hi,

I suposse that F and J wav files are 1073, J is the one you have custom built and L is hte SSL G preamp.

I like how J wav file sounds, is it the custom preamp?

Is it compatible with E series console with transformer amp cards?

Thanks for uploading the samples.

If you have any picture  of the prototype card... it would be nice to see it!!

Best regards.

Oihan

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2022, 05:14:06 PM »
Hopefully I'll be able to visit you again soon and hear it in the studio :D

Cheers,

Andy
co-designer and project manager G series analogue 1987
channel strip designer J series 1992-93
design "caretaker" 4000/6000 1985-93
analogue team leader ARC/Bertha 1988-92

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2022, 05:54:18 PM »
The current cards are in my console. I will be receiving 75 more for populating shortly.
We will be taking orders as of this week.
The main issue right now is the lead time on the transformers.we only have enough for the first order we have to fulfill.

Andy, can’t wait to have you back!

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2022, 05:57:21 PM »
Also, this preamp wil be available in the 149 style as well.
We just tackled the 291 right away because it was the harder to manage.
The E style will be very shortly and sound identical!


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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2022, 07:19:22 PM »
Will you sell them assembled? Or just pcb, transformer and the rest of components for building each on their own?

Regards.

Oihan

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Re: A new flavour for the 4K preamp! 2022
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2022, 07:37:23 PM »
Oh no. These are complete drop ins.
Pre tested and ready to go.