Sorry guys - disagree (yes, I am a 5K owner .... ),
first of all - it was a little quick for this topic to be considered closed - not half a day if I count it right.
I don't think the computer for the 5K is that much different from the Ultimation computer for the 4K.
Looking at the "SL 4000 Series Console Installation Guide" I see that the back is the same (!).
Here's a pic :
And here's a pic from the SL 4000 Serries Console Installation manual :
Looks much the same, doesn't it ?
Looking further at the 'board numbers', I find, that they have pretty similar numbers, like this
Board 4000K Install guide 5K Computer manual
Bus Driver Card 622
121E1 82E
121Analog Input Card 622
041E1 82E
41These are only 2 examples - others 'match' the same.
So, before we completely drop the 5K, I'd like to have someone having a service manual for the 4K computer may post some schematics of the boards inside the 4K computer to compare them with what I have here.
I am asking to compare some of the drawing numbers (DRG.NO) and compare them to them of the 5K.
Here is some information on the 5K Ultimation computer :
It's a G-Series computer (I actually do own the G+ Ulktimation)
SSL calls it : SL691G
The block diagram drawing is called : T0691G.41
Drawing of the analog input cards is : T82041.71.2 (E2 version)
Drawing of tape machine interface and clock is : T82043.71
Drawing of the Keyboard and VDU interface is : T82044.72
I don't have pics of the actual boards in the computer handy but will shoot some soon to post them here and to check if it's the same as for the 4K computer (maybe others as well).
Please don't get me wrong here,I just want to make sure that everyone knows what we are talking about.
It's not the console - it's the computer.
And I am pretty sure the computer ist 'the same' besides the total recall option which, btw, is completely based on MIDI on the 5K (lucky me ..... ).
Like jimfixit said : the PCB and cabling of the console itself are much different to the 4K (at least that's what I guess from the 4K install manual).
But, as shown above and unless someone proves me wrong, the computer, especially the G+ Ultimation computer, should be the same.
A side note on the 5K :
I don't think this console deserves it's bad reputation.
It's much more flexible but therefore also more complicated to understand and service.
I don't know who of the ones having bad words for it ever
worked on one.
Couple of questions remain :
what do you consider a 'made for audio' console (sintech) ?
Is the sound of all the films that were mixed on a 5K bad ?
Have you ever heard a song mixed on a 5K ?
Does 'film and broadcast' mean it's 1/4" patchbays (mine has Bantam btw.).
Anyway - I am glad to know that someone here has knowledge about the 5K (jimfixit....) and I will try to support the development of the 5K computer since I believe it's not
that different.
If I am lucky, it
is the same and all these discussions are obsolete.
We'll see how it works out.
Cheers,
Matt