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Matt Sartori

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Power Supply Upgrade
« on: July 11, 2012, 10:28:26 AM »
I would like to open a thread on the above subject.
After many years of use I have noticed the PSUs can be upgraded and restored to (better than) factory specifications by doing some work on them:

-new filtering capacitors on after the rectifiers
-new (bigger) rectifiers (35A)
-recapping the small control boards (and re-seating the op amps)
-checking and matching the POWER transistors (TO-3 format) on the PSU.

anyone can comment on this?

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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 04:58:02 PM »
I am adding the PSU schematic so we can all refer to the same components.
this is for the +20V rail



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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 08:40:46 PM »
I am by no means a tech but I can confirm that my PSU's (all 3) have 50 amp rectifiers in them.

Stef.

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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2012, 10:07:09 PM »
thank you stefan, I think the replacement of the Rectifiers requires mounting an extra alluminium block to rise the bridge itself.
could you post pics ???

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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 12:08:03 AM »
Pics are a bit hard I'm afraid as all of my PSUs are in the rack and I'm not really keen to take them out.

I do know the 50a rectifiers should be soldered on.

Stef.

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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2012, 06:31:53 AM »
Pics are a bit hard I'm afraid as all of my PSUs are in the rack and I'm not really keen to take them out.

I do know the 50a rectifiers should be soldered on.

Stef.

ok thank you!
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Power Supply Upgrade capacitors replacement
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2012, 04:06:03 PM »
Hello guys,
I am trying to replace the main caps in the SSL Psu and wondering what you guys use...
they are still very expensive to buy from the common sources, Farnell RS and so on...




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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2012, 06:04:20 AM »
I bought all new caps, but they are much smaller then the original FILMCAPS. I can take pics later.

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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2012, 12:21:29 PM »
This is what I got, under test as we speak!



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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2014, 10:11:05 PM »
Hey Mattia,
how did these Kemet Caps work for you? Really interested to explore this topic further. The supply I'm currently using still has the "Filmcap" Capacitors, and if those are still the original ones, it maybe time to replace them.

Also, I would love to upgrade my power supply so that I can run 48 Channels + VUs + Centre Section with it.

Here's a link for the Kemet's and also comparable Vishay / BC, both around € 50 a piece.

http://de.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=oAgV09qeUCvzdM5ztoAj%252bg%3d%3d

http://de.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=A8YJ4olPTF5LsotmtNsxpA%3d%3d
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Re: Power Supply Upgrade
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 12:05:12 PM »
Hi guys,

When replacing those large electroytics, an important component parameter to watch out for in the specification sheet is the capacitor's Effective Series Resistance (ESR). The huge current movement in the capacitor teams up with ESR to generate not only ripple voltage across the plus/minus terminals of the capacitor but also internal heat. It is this internal heat that can contribute significantly to the 'drying out' of the capacitor.

Generally the larger the capacitor value, the lower the ESR for a given brand/series. Basically look to the OEM component selection and match or better the specs but beware of increasing the value of the capacitors to the point where the bridge rectifiers, and the mains transformer, become overly stressed due to the larger caps drawing larger pulses of current on each charge cycle. It's difficult to avoid a domino effect when making changes to a design that has been effectively engineered to begin with.

I really like the idea of matching the transistors, a few challenges there.

Regards

Pat