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Tech discussion => 4K,6K,8K Series => Topic started by: RoyMixer on January 18, 2019, 02:15:43 PM

Title: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on January 18, 2019, 02:15:43 PM

Hi There,
here is a strange one for you :
Every other channel displaying wrong channel number in recall display - automation does not have this problem.

problem also seen in TR (desk monitor) when you swap a track .

also !test -> TR -> 'Display object values ' does not have this problem .

any ideas?

See attached image


R

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: waltzingbear on January 18, 2019, 07:04:07 PM

do you have the "channel ID" turned on in the software? You do know that the channel modules are coded with a number assignable on the card at the bottom of the module?

Swap a channel, change the number if you have that turned on.

otherwise, it gets confused.

Cheers
Alan

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on January 18, 2019, 07:06:05 PM

Thanks Alan for the reply!

I checked and the desk is set to ignore dip switches :

Best,
Roy

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: Clip6 on January 21, 2019, 12:56:35 AM

Roy did reprogramming the fader map help?

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on January 21, 2019, 04:19:25 AM

HI!

Thanks for your suggestion.

you mean  re-selecting he objects?  I re-did that, same issue.

the automation seems fine, just not the recall.  I am starting to wonder if its the  if one TR multiplex address lines are messed up.

R

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: Dan Korneff on January 22, 2019, 11:53:25 AM

I've seen something similar happen with my console. My issues ended up being a multiplexer ribbon being half way unplugged. It didn't change every other channel like yours, but random channels would be labled as 100+ and some of my stereo channels would show as mono.

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on January 25, 2019, 02:40:40 PM

THanks Dan!

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: Clip6 on March 30, 2019, 08:08:03 PM

Roy what was the fix on this?

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on March 30, 2019, 08:13:30 PM

Hi Clip6,

I have not found a solution.  i tried unplugging each side of the LHS and RHS S9E to see of there was problem with the TR mux busses.  no help there.
i have to investigate more .. are you having this issue??
R

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: Clip6 on March 30, 2019, 11:22:02 PM

Hey. So your at PS right? What did the old time SSL techs say?

Your not short on tech talent where you are.

It would be good to know the solution if it comes up for someone else in the future.

 8)

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on March 31, 2019, 12:32:28 AM

What is your symptom?   I've asked people around NYC and no one seems to know anything.

I wish i knew and ex SSL TR expert.
R

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: Clip6 on March 31, 2019, 04:28:31 AM

Maybe Phil Scholes "thatstudioguy" on instagram can help.

This is Roy H I assume.

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on March 31, 2019, 04:50:24 AM

Good Idea,

Yes Roy H.

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: Clip6 on March 31, 2019, 05:25:59 AM

Phil is ex-SSL

Also http://www.virtualearthaudio.com/index.html

This is Phil Nicolay another ex-SSL named Phil.

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on March 31, 2019, 05:30:43 AM

Spoke to him, great guy he says he may have been part of building my particular desk.

He is amazing, has taken care of much for me over the years.

R

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: jimlfixit on April 17, 2019, 12:34:11 AM

After Paul Bamborough, who designed the mix system software, left SSL in the mid 1980's, Phil Cork took over and carried on with all that software stuff. He would know about all that but I think he has moved on to other interests in the USA.

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: RoyMixer on May 18, 2019, 05:17:14 AM

Adding image of symptom
R

Title: Re: SL4000 Total Recall - Every other channel displaying wrong number in recall
Post by: matt on May 18, 2019, 07:26:19 PM

I have no idea if this could be of help, but looking at your pic from a programmer's point of view, it has problems with the first two even numbered channesl.
So starting from the point where ich shows channel number 2, the sequence is correct for the even numbered channels : 2,4,6,8,10 ......

For me, this looks like the first 2 even numbered channels are 'not seen' (whatever this means) but the 3rd even numbered channel is chosen as the first even numbered.

To me, this could very well point to a problem with the cabling.

As I said, no idea if this helps in any way, it's just one more way of looking at your problem.

Cheers,
Matt