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Tech discussion => 4K,6K,8K Series => Topic started by: horizonsound on March 21, 2022, 07:28:29 AM

Title: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: horizonsound on March 21, 2022, 07:28:29 AM
Hi All,

A bit has been going on over the last few months that has been keeping me very busy.

First up is the refurbishment of the SL651E, and the reverse engineering of the centre section cards. The cards are almost all done, excepting the 33 & 34. Parts availability is becoming a serious issue.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_68f10261ddf1466da4e7ea5a7b0007fe~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_d801ae84ca8c40ca84056fdbf4c232e0~mv2.jpg)

Last weekend I picked up an entire rack with 2x 661E PSUs, Changover Unit, 665E PSU, G+ Computer with TR and 4/100C processor!!!, and a remote keyboard. The computer started up perfectly, and TR worked as well, but the PSU was in real bad shape and let off the smoke of death, so I've stripped it and turning it in to a switch mode PSU.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_f8787751b7ed46dba3ec9ce70d9edc7f~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_a5ac931c3afe4624990ea0604611eb4b~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_9f4cbdda91db406a8f34ea9f93a2db48~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_a25b35b4bbe64c31a04345756d5bf043~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_1056dd1d39164a4f8eb9029e8219aad1~mv2.jpg)

Lastly I've been looking in to the TR computer, and have started reverse engineering that. CPU and HRG boards are done - more as a backup if my current ones fail - but with hopes to create something as a more modern replacement.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_0b49db713e394b82b519f89054ef8a2c~mv2.png)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_1e45aa408d064120bb31056eadd89730~mv2.png)
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Matt Sartori on April 04, 2022, 09:20:21 PM
I am completely speechless ....wow amazing work...
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: horizonsound on April 05, 2022, 08:26:03 AM
Thanks Matt! It's certainly keeping me busy. I have a long list of tasks for the coming months ahead.

For now...
  Completed the switchmode conversion on the computer PSU.
  Replaced all fans in the computer with 12v and a separate power supply.
  Fixed the remote keyboard - it was a blown RS232 chip.
  Fixed the video distribution card. Recap, and blown BC184 which provides the 7v for the DS3630 sync buffers. That chip is very sensitive to having the correct supply voltage.
  Bought a cheap "working" Dell 17" monitor on FB marketplace ($5). Turned out the backlight driver transistors were shot, so another thing to fix, but all good now.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_72abfba4aada4473b1f5db2c54ee9a8b~mv2.jpg)


(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_c1ae138753cc4443b8eb7d90e216d604~mv2.jpg)


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(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_05b499f81983485ab7c5a6fbcfa1eba2~mv2.jpg)


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Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: oyanliz on April 05, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
Amazing post!! Amazing projects!! Amazing skills!!

Well done!!

Oihan
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: pascal.verdet on April 06, 2022, 07:50:30 AM
Great, Nice !!!
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Original_Box on April 06, 2022, 06:21:55 PM
WOW! This is truly amazing.
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: horizonsound on April 08, 2022, 11:45:35 AM
VGA converter - nicely racked up.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_41605eba00874fa494e926affd42588c~mv2.jpg)


(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_aaeb40040b52485a8b9b583ef2fdad7f~mv2.jpg)


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Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Tonemiester on April 14, 2022, 03:01:29 PM
Incredible!! Jaw dropping!!

Mike
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: emilshayeb on May 02, 2022, 06:33:56 PM
Amazing!!!!
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Robbie Ost on May 17, 2022, 01:59:23 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: horizonsound on June 03, 2022, 11:04:38 PM
Lots of projects on the go right now. I probably need to stop and complete a few of the half-finished ones.

Over the last month I've been helping on fixing up a 6048E with plasmas. The SL688V section has a lot of logic issues that need to be worked through. As a test of myself, I cloned the 158 board in record time. Should be able to try it out at the next visit in a few weeks.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_813c95dbee464af0850d7a81bb4c0115~mv2.jpg)


Converted another power supply over to switch mode. Not sure what I'll do with the last power supply, and the changeover. Was thinking of turning them in to rack drawers to store stuff, but keeping the SSL faceplates :)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_ee79d4ec4499416895a881fc137395da~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_8c07742df7a04a29a63d836be0f16139~mv2.jpg)


RML CPU and HRG cards are coming along. Will be a challenge to track down all the necessary ICs for these, though there is a site Jameco, that stocks most of these.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_3658ffad29054b9fb9b3a32e845317d0~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_cd089a4585454ffcbad31f0aa2d691d9~mv2.jpg)


Lastly, the SL651 is slowly getting done. Waiting on some long lead time items.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_13b9d627acdb4aa1a0e33b23aeb2a078~mv2.jpg)
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: pascal.verdet on June 04, 2022, 07:11:14 AM
Hi Antony,
Very mice. !
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Clip6 on June 04, 2022, 08:16:45 PM
Nice. You rock man.

What are the RML CPU and HRG cards?
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: horizonsound on June 04, 2022, 10:44:46 PM
Nice. You rock man.

What are the RML CPU and HRG cards?

The CPU is the Total Recall computer which is a separate Z80 processor to the main automation computer.
The HRG is the High Resolution Graphics card that goes with it.
These two cards make up the core of the the Total Recall system.

Anthony.
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Clip6 on June 05, 2022, 01:08:58 AM
Thanks you sir.

I should of scrolled further to see the other post.

Thanks for your hard work.

I'd be happy with just a floppy replacement but I think you already did that.
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: horizonsound on June 05, 2022, 01:28:48 AM
Haven't done the gotek for a 3.5" disk yet, but it will be surely easier than the 8" version.

Only need to grab a few more goteks and test it out. One of the other to-do items on this long project list.

Anthony.
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Clip6 on June 05, 2022, 01:51:46 AM
Yea so many guys using that. Even the old Fairlight got an upgrade.
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update-CPMP PSU
Post by: vancalot on September 19, 2022, 04:26:14 PM
I would love to know the BOM for the Comp PSU project..
Great work!!
v




Hi All,

A bit has been going on over the last few months that has been keeping me very busy.

First up is the refurbishment of the SL651E, and the reverse engineering of the centre section cards. The cards are almost all done, excepting the 33 & 34. Parts availability is becoming a serious issue.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_68f10261ddf1466da4e7ea5a7b0007fe~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_d801ae84ca8c40ca84056fdbf4c232e0~mv2.jpg)

Last weekend I picked up an entire rack with 2x 661E PSUs, Changover Unit, 665E PSU, G+ Computer with TR and 4/100C processor!!!, and a remote keyboard. The computer started up perfectly, and TR worked as well, but the PSU was in real bad shape and let off the smoke of death, so I've stripped it and turning it in to a switch mode PSU.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_f8787751b7ed46dba3ec9ce70d9edc7f~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_a5ac931c3afe4624990ea0604611eb4b~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_9f4cbdda91db406a8f34ea9f93a2db48~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_a25b35b4bbe64c31a04345756d5bf043~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_1056dd1d39164a4f8eb9029e8219aad1~mv2.jpg)

Lastly I've been looking in to the TR computer, and have started reverse engineering that. CPU and HRG boards are done - more as a backup if my current ones fail - but with hopes to create something as a more modern replacement.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_0b49db713e394b82b519f89054ef8a2c~mv2.png)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_1e45aa408d064120bb31056eadd89730~mv2.png)
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: vancalot on September 19, 2022, 04:33:04 PM
Again! I'd love to know the BOM for this..
Thanks so much,
v
VGA converter - nicely racked up.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_41605eba00874fa494e926affd42588c~mv2.jpg)


(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_aaeb40040b52485a8b9b583ef2fdad7f~mv2.jpg)


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Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Tonemiester on September 20, 2022, 03:07:46 PM
I would too.

Thanks
Mike
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: horizonsound on November 01, 2022, 12:09:20 AM
Been a while as lots has been going on.

Just got through a massive backlog of card orders, and can return to working on my own console for a change. Attached is a list of cards I've completed if anyone is interested  8)
Here's a bit of what's been happening

6048E Servicing

This year I've been helping get a 6048E back up to spec. There were quite a few issues with it, but am on the home straight now. The SL688V had insulation on the Solo Isolate switches to prevent contact with the frame. There is next to no space in that section, and they were pressing hard against the frame. Of course over time it becomes brittle, along with the switches needing to be replaced. What was to be an easy job, took many hours due to the complex wiring. In the last photo you can see where the Solo Isolate wiring connects in to the back of the bucket.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_597729ccd5214b6b84c6200648aede96~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_d2ae0f70664240eabb3f51f89fa86f6c~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_3f4111c08c404c0ea7c7122e318287f8~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_2e5c678263664f918ef6dc4810832fb6~mv2.jpg)

What happens when a leg of an LED shorts to the frame of your module. Resistor pack removed from E12 logic card.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_8d9a4392ccb54c3ab0f7b6c2f2e57bc4~mv2.jpg)


RML CPU Total Recall Computer

Finally got the courage to fire up my clone of the RML CPU card. Had to grab the chips off the original, but it fired up perfectly first time. Very happy! Next is the HRG card.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_4ea4f3d8e6d24419b9936c350532b50d~mv2.jpg)


Magic Smoke

After replacing the cards in my centre section with my clones, I ran across a really strange modification. On pressing the "Group" button for the oscillator, the magic smoke came pouring out of the E31 card. Specifically the 10 ohm output resistor to ground, of the Stereo Out Right channel. After a while, I chased it down to a modification that someone had made to the centre section. There was a connection from the Group and Quad Bus oscillator switches, direct to pin 51 of the E31 card. The 0V connection had been removed. This meant that when either of these switches was engaged, 18V was sent direct to the 0V audio pin. I have no idea of the reasoning for this modification. I am certain my centre section come from a Japanese broadcast installation.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_113b4233c1a8491bbde40ee89bc7dc8a~mv2.jpg)


And finally, here's some upgraded meters with Recycled Audio illumination, and balanced cards from @simonstav

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bb0400_5f1dc5ea4cef4a35b161419935ab0f09~mv2.jpg)


Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Clip6 on November 01, 2022, 02:52:55 AM
Thank you sir.
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: Timetravel on November 01, 2022, 07:33:57 PM
Hi Anthony. I see you made a new 651 front panel laser cut?
Title: Re: Random SSL Projects Update
Post by: horizonsound on November 01, 2022, 10:13:53 PM
Yes that's correct. Laser cut 3mm aluminium.

Though it is to suit NKK switches, loaded to a PCB mounted on the rear.
Makes it super easy to load and service the switches, and around 1/4 of the price.

Anthony.