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Tech discussion => 4K,6K,8K Series => Topic started by: PelleG on July 09, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
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Sorry for starting a new thread.
I felt a big need to turn the page on this.
Where finally done with our automation product. :D :D :D
I worked 'til my hair fell off and I'm very happy with it.
You can find info on our site:
automanefforts.com (http://automanefforts.com)
Christian_ae (on this forum) will answer questions if you have any.
So ... go ahead and place your orders so I can buy some hair back (and my wife).
Best regards,
pelle@automanefforts.com
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Thanks for the intro, Pelle!
Yes, we are live and hoping to hear from you. The info on our web is still brief, but I guess all you SSL-users know what automation is. ;)
General questions can posted on this forum (if the moderator don't mind). Specific inquires can be mailed directly to me at christian@automanefforts.com.
I will make an effort to contribute to this great community!
Christian 8)
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Very happy to see that you guys have achieved this!
CONGRATULATIONS!
the forum is here to support you and to help with your customer service, make the most of it.
Mattia.
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Thank you, Mattia!
Looking forward to hear more from you and all the other SSL fanatics here.
Christian
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Exciting! How does it integrate with ultimation? Congratulation on completing this complicated project.
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No integration with ultimation so far. Let's see what the demand is. I'm sure it's a pretty straight forward interface, not far away from the VCA only. But ... time, time, time.
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From my understanding Ultimation and Total Recall are not supported.
This could be perceived as a 'step back' if you use TR as part of your workflow., it's not just for recalls, but a good tool to push boundaries in a Mix
My 2p:
Personally can't see facilities with 40-80ch buying into this product, without the ability to recall projects.
It's priced too high to appeal to the 16-32 Range.
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I appreciate you input, sintech.
We decided not to implement Total Recall in the first version, but it is technically possible for us to add it to the CV96 in an update. We will see what our customers need and want.
But you can of course use the visual representation in the software to approximately recall the fader positions... ;)
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Yeah, yeah .. nag nag ..
I'm pretty sure we'll start on the TR card soon. I already have a prototype that scans the pots and switches.
Just haven't started on the software side.
It's just that as a mixer I hate recalls and I do whatever I can to avoid them.
To the point where I infiltrated the business and eliminated the features.
I know you don't like recalls to.
SO, you should all thank me!
8)
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Great job guys! Really impressed i must say.
I can see what you mean with the recalls in a way... it has almost never happened i had to make a recall because of a client etc... (though it happens) its more i didnt have time to finish before another recording/mixing session is going to take place, so I had to paus a couple of days, just sayi
And i mean different engineers will maybe have different setups when recording or mixing, with routings and such as a template to start with, alot of benefits with recalls imo :)
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Congratulations Pelle!
Finally your baby has born! We are very proud of your effort to bring your product to life and offer it to the SSL legacy family. I am sure you'll find lots of happy homes and success.
I acknowledge the amount of effort that you had, not only to research and design it, but also to build this as a product. I think I can talk for everybody here that we are very proud of you.
I wish you the best of lucks and you'll have our support like you always had.
Cheers,
Artur
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Yeah, yeah .. nag nag ..
I'm pretty sure we'll start on the TR card soon. I already have a prototype that scans the pots and switches.
Just haven't started on the software side.
It's just that as a mixer I hate recalls and I do whatever I can to avoid them.
To the point where I infiltrated the business and eliminated the features.
I know you don't like recalls to.
I 8)
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Yeah, yeah .. nag nag ..
I'm pretty sure we'll start on the TR card soon. I already have a prototype that scans the pots and switches.
Just haven't started on the software side.
It's just that as a mixer I hate recalls and I do whatever I can to avoid them.
To the point where I infiltrated the business and eliminated the features.
I know you don't like recalls to.
I don't care about recalls, A expercienced mixer gets a vibe and thats the vibe of the day.. I never been able to beat my original Mixes..
SO, you should all thank me!
8)
Ok. This is how you quote.
Please correct the quotation above.
Even though I might agree, I wanna state my own quotes.
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Yeah, yeah .. nag nag ..
I'm pretty sure we'll start on the TR card soon. I already have a prototype that scans the pots and switches.
Just haven't started on the software side.
It's just that as a mixer I hate recalls and I do whatever I can to avoid them.
To the point where I infiltrated the business and eliminated the features.
I know you don't like recalls to.
SO, you should all thank me!
8)
Ok. This is how you quote.
Please correct the quotation above.
Even though I might agree, I wanna state my own quotes.
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dear newmann20
please figure out how to correctly use the forum
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Hi again!
I just want to inform those interested that we have committed to adding Total Recall to our CV96 system. It will be a optional upgrade to the CV96 consisting of an I/O-card, TR96, and a special version of the software, SW96TR. It will be available Q2 2015. Price TBA.
Peace! 8)
Christian
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Waiting for the painted metal works. In the meantime - check out a 4040E with Automan. Looks like fun.
http://youtu.be/MnQQW-tPyWg
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Looks awesome, congrats :)
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Great work!!! Keep the news coming!!
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What a great idea! As this speaks HUI, I assume it will just integrate with Pro Tools through that protocol?
Any preliminary ideas for the cost?
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Thanks sintech and Artur!
@Resident: The price for a 48 channel system with 8 motorized faders is around €8 500. You can contact us to get the cost for your specific system. Since our system comes with its own computer and software that handles the automation you would only need to get sync (MTC) from your ProTools rig (or your multitrack). Having said that I can add that HUI integration with ProTools is also possible.
Check out our web for more info or send me a PM!
Christian
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...some pictures of the first delivery. 7 x EX08 cards loaded. Heading for Berlin.
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This is looking really slick!! great work Pelle!!
You need to do a few marketing videos so we can see it in action! ;)
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You need to do a few marketing videos so we can see it in action! ;)
Thanks Artur,
Yes I know.
We're working on it right now.
We'll post something next week.
/Pelle
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I'm getting access to the local SSL room around October 15th. We're shooting some videos. I'll reveal the TR interface as well.
I'm working on the remote, it's gonna be awesome!
http://youtu.be/4eZjrFbX4Ik
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It is looking awesome Pelle! :) Keep up the great work!
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Soon. Design phase over ..
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Eeeyy! If anyone's at NAMM or around. I'll be there. I have some hardware with me. Buzz me if you wanna chat.
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Be brilliant to see more videos of this in action :)
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Yes. I know. I'm behind on that. We're working on some tutorial videos for our web site. We HAVE to publish them before NAMM. I have very limited access to the only studio in town with a system.
Though. There's a system up and running in Brooklyn. They made some statements. No videos though.
http://www.thebunkerstudio.com
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We finally got some more media on our web:
http://automanefforts.com/ (http://automanefforts.com/)
There was also a rewarding article in Sonic Scoop this week:
http://www.sonicscoop.com/2015/01/19/early-adopters-the-bunker-studio-boosts-its-ssl-4000-with-automan-automation/ (http://www.sonicscoop.com/2015/01/19/early-adopters-the-bunker-studio-boosts-its-ssl-4000-with-automan-automation/)
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That's looking great Pelle!!
Congratulations! Are you showing it at NAMM?! :D
Cheers,
Artur
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Are you showing it at NAMM?!
Yes and no. I was there, no booth. Spreading flyers. Tried to find distribution/dealer.
It was nice. Met a lot of people. Some are excited, others almost find it provocative to blow life in old stuff.
Well well. I've done some tests with audio faders lately and will install an all motor / audio fader system on a local API in April.
It's a benefit for everyone because it shares 90% with the SSL systems.
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Finally got some access to my old SSL room to fine tune the Recall.
It works like a charm.
Just need to add some polished graphics.
https://www.facebook.com/automanefforts
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hl65_yMDCI
when it will be available
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I do not dare to say.
I'm still working on the v2.0 of the software, which is ported to a more flexible solution. As you see on this video the gui is completely browser based.
It takes time and thus - money.
Money is an object so I had to return to producing/mixing records. Unfortunately :-)
I'm also looking over some of the hardware to cut some manufacturing costs. It includes direct purchase of components and parts.
We'll see if the world still turns when I'm done :-)
I'll post some vids next week. Proof of me still in labour.
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thanks great job
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Finally some hours spent in the workshop.
Tested some new features today.
The main core running on OS X. It's merely a hub for connecting stuff to the CV96.
HUI can be routed direct or mixed with our own automation software.
Everything can be accessed thru browser. So no extra keyboard needed. Very handy for recall if you use an iPad.
http://youtu.be/u2UTw4w7u5E
As soon as I get to a console I'll demo the recall screens. They're very straight forward. A thick yellow outline/blob for every misaligned knob/switch. The layout displayed banks of 8 channels at the time. Very easy and fast to locate everything. You decide what to recall and how accurate it should align. The computer don't interfere in any way.
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http://youtu.be/_IBLrDu9nxo
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HUI link - very simple demo. Can be injected as direct control or as a VCA master.
http://youtu.be/mDWztsxhUlE
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Hi Pelle!
It's looking grate, congratulations! Lots of work you've been putting into this! ;) I am curious, have you overcome that problem with the HUI messages delay/priority?
You're using that to control the DAW, or use the DAW to automate the VCAs/groups?
Cheers,
Artur
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Thanks Artur,
Well. I haven't really solved the HUI latency.
But, on the other hand my system doesn't rely upon it either.
Hard to explain. :-)
I've done it so its on a second layer kind of. You can route HUI in and out any way you choose. And from any track to any track.
So it can be used to control DAW, or / and be controlled from DAW. It can also be dumped and imported between both.
It's pretty cool actually. I'm gonna do a proper demo when I get access to my old SSL.
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Very interesting! It looks very good! ;)
But how are you bridging with the DAW to avoid the HUI latency? Plugin approach instead?
Cheers,
Artur
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I actually just avoiding by don't giving a f**k about it :-)
No but seriously. My own sync is spot on so if anybody want do be precise they should use the built in method.
The HUI linking is perfect for other things. 98% of the rides aren't critical down to frames anyway.
My favorite scenario is having groups of faders connected as "delta in" to DAW HUI out channels. That way you can mix on the actual faders but do VCA group style rides from DAW. And that's 32 groups.
Drawing "S" dips are also sweet.
http://youtu.be/XaRPJdtHjn4
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Well, it's looking great! ;)
I am curious to see how it goes... When you're ready you have to make more complete videos! ;)