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michaeldtech

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DL# and pin positions for remote talkback/redlight/etc.
« on: November 18, 2013, 01:40:43 PM »
Can someone take a quick look at their DL book for the DL# and positions for these?
I think they are on DL31? with the AUX/REV/CUE at the bottom
Much appreciated!
Mike

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SSL return talkback and red light DL locations
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 07:21:58 PM »
Hi Mike

These functions were normally wired to the centre section DL's, 31, 32 or 33 (even 34 on larger consoles) but SSL changed their positions throughout the years so there would not be a set place for them.

I would suggest unscrewing and dropping these DL's down and making a note of the white cable idents on the wires. They would normally refer to the patchbay (A to W unless you have a larger patch!) but others could be Z01 etc. The centre section wires going to and from the patchbay from the DL's would be L, M, N, P and probably some of R and S.

Therefore, if a DL wire was labelled N32, just refer to the patchbay to see what the function is.

Some of the centre section wires came directly from the 651 centre section via the two 104 way MRAC connectors and did not go to the patchbay. These are probably labelled X or Z___?. Alt LS switching (should be Z02) and red light (should be Z01) are classic cases of this.

By the way, to get the word phrasing correct, the Control Room 651 mic provides talkback to the studio live area via the pre fader cue feeds and the two listen mics (on the patch) are return talkback back to the CR. The listen mics are different to normal mic sources on row A as, I think the listen mics are muted during a recording session to prevent feedback from the live recording area whereas normal mic sources (A1-48 etc) are always active or live during a recording. Musicians can be heard in the listen mics at any time in the CR but, are muted whilst recording.

I may be wrong with this but, hopefully, I'm right. This was the original SSL idea but you people know more than me in reality. I don't have a console but most of you do so, please correct me if I am wrong!

The red Light switching is activated automatically when the console is in record mode so, a red light can be wired via a suitable remote relay box position and be lit up near any live rooms to warn people not to enter.

The alt speaker switching, like the red light contacts, both from the 651, and having 2 x DL pin positions, activates a remote relay (supplied by the client on older consoles) to switch between two or more sets of alternative speakers. There have been recent posts on this including a wiring diagram from Mattia Sartori, the person who started this website forum (please give him some more positive Karma points as he deserves them)!

Hope this helps a bit and regards from 

Jim Lassen (www.profcon.co.uk). Also on FACEBOOK
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michaeldtech

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Re: DL# and pin positions for remote talkback/redlight/etc.
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2013, 02:46:01 PM »
Yep I am hip to the same generalities but I need the actual positions for the functions.

Anyone with a DL book on the shelf above the computer?  There are only 4 positions I need.
Mike

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Re: DL# and pin positions for remote talkback/redlight/etc.
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2013, 02:31:29 AM »
Hi Michael

the redlight closure is listed as dl 33  echo sends returns: mon amps mini amps :redlight
on my pages at p4 n4 no gnd on loom z01

as far as remote talk back...i dont see anything labelled as such on this page

dl 59 producers panel has producers mic screen g8 mic signal e6 mic dc d6
+20v p2 -20v n2 0v m2
sorry been to busy mixing to check in ...if this doesnt help give me actual button/switch names  i have all the manuals etc
« Last Edit: December 13, 2013, 02:53:13 AM by unitedreco »
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