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marcmozart

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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2013, 08:31:31 PM »
100% agreed - very helpful info!

Norman is a cool guy and if it was just him I was dealing with I'm sure the out come would have been different.  I'm just telling my story so people have a background on what happened and where this power supply is at.
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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2013, 11:23:20 PM »
hi Artur,

sorry for my late reply!

just back from abroad, but my laptop ain't as it has changed ownership involuntarily
may the new owner be filled with a sense of guilt and shame as he failed to identify the valuable objects :)

to answer your question - a recorded t/c track would be just as fine as well

as much as i appreciate any new developments on the computer side of things i fail to see a problem in using it the way it has been used for 30+ years
the beauty of it being that it kinda forces you to use your ears rather than your eyes - and to me that's all what music is about

i'm considering myself to be extremely lucky being able to work with some of the world's best engineers
if they have one thing in common - the automation computer NEVER EVER came up as an issue?!

one of the main reasons the 4k is still alive and in demand is the fact that the designers have relied on commercially available parts - they didn't wanna cash in on 'exclusive' components

good luck with fixing an amek hendrix or galileo console and their purpose made chips ... they still sound great, though

i've designed the konnektor with that very philosophy in mind - hence i made it work on MTC and MMC, the dinosaurs of midi
i thought that any software not capable of providing those basic midi functions is probably not worth being used on a professional level anyway

the 4k computer is no exception - it's based on 74x ttl chips!
those will most likely be available after a nuclear strike, at no cost at all
and if you come to a standstill there's guys like George Gilbert who literally know every bit of that system and will be able to fix any card + provide you with a replacement

having said that, i really appreciate developments like the dramastic audio approach
all those projects will help the 4k to survive in the long run - thanks guys!

cheers, werner










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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2013, 12:11:27 AM »
I would love to agree. But I have searched for a 4/100 Rev C CPU-Card for years now and the 2 offers I've had were 3.000 US$ and more.
Very different from the console itself where most problems can be fixed with a soldering iron and a few caps or chips costing a few bucks or less.

the 4k computer is no exception - it's based on 74x ttl chips!
those will most likely be available after a nuclear strike, at no cost at all
and if you come to a standstill there's guys like George Gilbert who literally know every bit of that system and will be able to fix any card + provide you with a replacement

having said that, i really appreciate developments like the dramastic audio approach
all those projects will help the 4k to survive in the long run - thanks guys!

cheers, werner
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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2013, 02:03:42 PM »
The computer is a problem that will have to be addressed in the near future, since parts will eventual disappear or reach insupportable prices due to their scarcity.

Anyway I think a solution for this will have to come from the community and stay there. I believe that any proprietary solution will fail to be maintainable in the future, since the SSL legacy users are not enough to maintain a business running in a long term. These solutions will eventually have the same faith as the old SSL computer which had the giant SSL behind it. We need a replacement that's open, clearly understandable out it works, and it's able to evolve in the future and be kept alive easily. Only the community can maintain such a project, keep it objective and available to anyone who wishes to purchase it or build it on their own.

Cheers,

Artur


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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2013, 04:31:17 PM »
Bravo!

The computer is a problem that will have to be addressed in the near future, since parts will eventual disappear or reach insupportable prices due to their scarcity.

Anyway I think a solution for this will have to come from the community and stay there. I believe that any proprietary solution will fail to be maintainable in the future, since the SSL legacy users are not enough to maintain a business running in a long term. These solutions will eventually have the same faith as the old SSL computer which had the giant SSL behind it. We need a replacement that's open, clearly understandable out it works, and it's able to evolve in the future and be kept alive easily. Only the community can maintain such a project, keep it objective and available to anyone who wishes to purchase it or build it on their own.

Cheers,

Artur
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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 07:09:44 PM »
Absolutely!

The computer is a problem that will have to be addressed in the near future, since parts will eventual disappear or reach insupportable prices due to their scarcity.

Anyway I think a solution for this will have to come from the community and stay there. I believe that any proprietary solution will fail to be maintainable in the future, since the SSL legacy users are not enough to maintain a business running in a long term. These solutions will eventually have the same faith as the old SSL computer which had the giant SSL behind it. We need a replacement that's open, clearly understandable out it works, and it's able to evolve in the future and be kept alive easily. Only the community can maintain such a project, keep it objective and available to anyone who wishes to purchase it or build it on their own.

Cheers,

Artur



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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2013, 07:41:16 PM »
that would be perfect!

Anyway I think a solution for this will have to come from the community and stay there. I believe that any proprietary solution will fail to be maintainable in the future, since the SSL legacy users are not enough to maintain a business running in a long term. These solutions will eventually have the same faith as the old SSL computer which had the giant SSL behind it. We need a replacement that's open, clearly understandable out it works, and it's able to evolve in the future and be kept alive easily. Only the community can maintain such a project, keep it objective and available to anyone who wishes to purchase it or build it on their own.

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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2013, 05:00:52 AM »
Okay. I can see an open source code programs, but we need the hardware to interface to the computer. Where do we get that? Is that the hard part (I really think that it is). Who is going to do that and fund the actual expenses that are involved with this?

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Re: backing up SSL floppies onto a windows hard drive
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2013, 10:41:10 AM »
Guys,

Checkout the following thread which is the continuation of a bigger subject that involves this thread:

http://forum.sslmixed.com/index.php?topic=426.msg2379#new

Lets discuss it there.

Cheers,

Artur